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Defunct
11-21-2007, 07:18 PM
The only reason I can assume that no one has made a thread about this game yet is because your all so engrossed in the playing of it? :p
First off, I love this game, everything about it entertained me, and i think that everyone needs to at least give it a damned good playing.
I've just finished it myself heres what I think;
Combat wise, I love every single part of the combat, the counters, the throwing, the stabbing.... everything that an assassin game needs :D
Stealth wise, A little lighter on the stealth side which is a bit of a shame, however theres nothing better than running along the rooftops of the ancient world and then stabbing the crap outa any poor sod that happens to see you... stealth in the missions seems to be one of a few things, hide in a bunch of scholars till your close enough to jump out and stab, hang from the side of something until your close enough to stab, or jump down from somewhere once you get close enough to stab :)
Story wise, cool twist at the start puts a new perspective on the game, some minor twists throughout, some bigger twists at the end.... basic perception altering stuff really :p
Environment, Awesome.
Seriously enjoyed the game, praying for a sequel. :D
EDIT: Scrub that last bit, DS just informed me that AC is going to be a trilogy, woop! :D
Dragonstorm
11-21-2007, 07:53 PM
*quotes Defunct*
I agree on all of that.
I love the animations, especially the combat. The entire thing is so well made. It's so god damned fluid and cinematic that you get completely blown away whilst playing it. There's tonnes of variations on the anims, so you will see the same move alot, but it still looks good, and you tend not to get too much repetition in a single fight at least.
I've been playing it 24/7 since I got it, and me and Defunct jsut near simultaeneously finished it. Brilliant story, and I can't wait for the sequels!
Denary
11-22-2007, 09:56 PM
Endless fun of running around Acre killing someone in the middle of the street to hear the good ol' british cry of "Assassin!"
Defunct
11-22-2007, 11:39 PM
Endless fun of running around Acre killing someone in the middle of the street to hear the good ol' british cry of "Assassin!"
.... as you dissapear into the crowds of people and slip your now blood soaked blade into it's wrist holder.. :evil:
Midnighter
11-23-2007, 01:02 AM
Or murder people in the street, then make it look like your praying and everyone ignores you... invcluding the soldiers 10 metres away watching you...
Or falling 5km from a radio antenna in the heavens, but clipping a walkway which takes all the speed out of your fall on the way down so that you hit the actual ground at 3m/s but still explode in a shower of "you cocked up".
I do like dramatically swandiving into hay carts though. It's amazing what dried vegetable matter will do for a human body in chainmail, weighted down with an arsenal of very sharp kitchen utensils and travelling at terminal velocity.
Why sky divers bother with parachutes rather than... I don't know... dropping big straw bails and aiming for them with their heads, I'll never know.
Good game, but the tiny bugs bring out the sarcastic bastard in me.
Jekht
11-23-2007, 01:55 AM
Havn't got it yet :(
Probably will by Saturday tho :)
Had planned to get it tomorrow.
Mass Effect is out today though, and it'll take the Mrs about 3 months to get her usual 1,000 hours out of a Bioware game, so the chances of me actually getting to play Creed before Creed 2 comes out are pretty slim now.
Midnighter
11-23-2007, 09:40 AM
I'll smuggle you round to my place and you can play it covertly ;)
Thank hell I'm awesoemly busy this week and awesomely busy the first half of next week. Otherwise, had I time to play Assassins Creed or Mass Effect, I would have gone and bought them already...
Of course, then there's Super Mario Galaxy and Raw vs Smackdown... too many frikkin games I want! Aaaaargh!
Defunct
11-23-2007, 09:53 AM
Thank hell I'm awesoemly busy this week and awesomely busy the first half of next week. Otherwise, had I time to play Assassins Creed or Mass Effect, I would have gone and bought them already...
You really have to play it, once you get into it its absolutely amazing, I really don't get why IGN and other reviewers dissliked it as much as they did...the very same people that all got in a nice big line behind Halo 3, which was fun for about 2 days and a bit of a let down.
Midnighter
11-23-2007, 10:33 AM
I really don't get why IGN and other reviewers dissliked it as much as they did...the very same people that all got in a nice big line behind Halo 3, which was fun for about 2 days and a bit of a let down.
Maybe the kick-backs were'nt big enough?
Not that these large game reviewing organisations are partisan or easily swayed to gloss over glaring problems and praise a game as the saviour mankind and cure for AIDS, but they are all at hear unscrupulous bastards who tell you what to think for a living and work with even more unscrupulous bastards who want you to buy their lump of over priced and only half cooked programming that was built by an army of coders so huge even Xerxes the Great and the Persian hordes would tremble before them.
I know that some people enjoy the adventure of getting an average game rating across the board, to try and somehow decipher an accurate and hones game opinion like it is some sort of digital Da-Vinci Code, but lets be honest about one thing: when I take an average of all the reviews available for Halo 3 I realize I've not secretly decoded important information about the games own innate worth, instead what I've managed to do is unravel just how massive the publishers marketting wallet is and how some reviewers will happily tell you that cancer is fun in return for a corporate hand job.
In the end the game may average 9.5 or some such, but it still plays and feels like a giant turd. A surprisingly well polished turd, but you're still the one paying £50 to insert a turd into your console.
So yes. These people that are paid to tell you what to think about games and which to buy are not employed by the U.N. or Switzerland, so may have slightly insidious agendas. And if you don't bend to their evil mafia styled racket of greasing palms for sweet utterances online, your game might not get as optimistic a report as you would have liked...
I feel very verbose today... I may have to go and try to do some work. Or at least not post on forums immediately after throwing back large bottles of energy drink.
0bitus
11-23-2007, 06:06 PM
Thank hell I'm awesoemly busy this week and awesomely busy the first half of next week. Otherwise, had I time to play Assassins Creed or Mass Effect, I would have gone and bought them already...
Of course, then there's Super Mario Galaxy and Raw vs Smackdown... too many frikkin games I want! Aaaaargh!
Ive alot of uni work for next week so wont be much gaming this weekend :( got Assassins Creed and Rav vs Smackdown though, (only play the latter for the online play) and plan to get mass effect in time for xmas.
Jekht
11-26-2007, 02:50 AM
Been playing through it today. So far it's pretty good... beautiful graphics, and hopefully other games will realise that movement animations over objects can be implemented this seamlessly.
I'l post more once i'v played more!
Jekht
12-13-2007, 03:53 AM
Finally finished it with a gamerscore of 800 points, so perhaps not absolutely complete, but anything else left is just collecting which is boring!
Awesome game, no replay value though :(
You keep none of your weapon upgrades when revisting past levels (makes sense but still annoying) and most annoyingly, there aren't really multiple ways to assassinate a target. I was hoping for a game a little more hitman-esque where each assassination could be repeated dozens of times with new results each time, but alas, it's just the same old 'kill&run' scenario repeated over and over.
Still though, it is a beautiful game graphically, and I personally like the storyline quite abit. It's a nice set up for the next game in the series, one in which I hope will add some variance to the cities, and take us into a new era. Course I only mention the really bad bits, as lets face it, talking about the good isn't any fun at all! :p
I'd still reccommend this game to any 360 or PS3 user... a really solid next gen title IMO :)
Dragonstorm
12-13-2007, 12:58 PM
It's a nice set up for the next game in the series, one in which I hope will add some variance to the cities, and take us into a new era.
If you read everything at the end, it suggests an oriental setting for the next game, which sounds ace imo. It does mention the year somewhere too, and its after this game's memories.
Can't wait for that one and in the third, where I hope it's set in present day :D:D
TrillianX
12-13-2007, 01:43 PM
I played through this game as well, same result. I got about 850 achievement points, just because I am not going around looking for a bunch of freakin flags.
Brutal honesty.... This game gets a 7/10 from me. The Graphics are top notch. The AI of both the crowds and the guards are awesome. When I am discovered I really feel I am being sought after until I find a hiding spot. The main assassinations are awesome; they are very different and many times really make you plan your attack. You can also do them any way you want.
Example: (spoiler)
The paranoid guy on the ship. You could slowly take out his guards, sneak onto the ship, hide in shadows, sneak up behind him, then BOOM. Me, I was not that patient. I hung on the side of the ship until he was just right, climbed up onto the railing, then dove off onto him, stabbing him with my blade.
The bad.... The side missions make me actually want to go out and kill people. They are so repetative it makes you twitch alittle. The cities are a bit different, but not enough. The control can sometimes be as fun a banging your head on a wall. At times I would get hit by guards like 5 times before I could finally get my sword drawn. I try to assassinate someone, and it has magically switched to my sword instead of my hidden blade. The camera can be a pain at times, especially fighting in allys, but I have seen worse. Also, I am sorry, but of the two endings you get (one for each period), only one is good. I know the other is meant to be a cliffhanger for AC2, but it sucked.
The good thing is that, unless you are an achievement whore, you only need to do about 1/3rd of the side missions to beat the game.
My final advice: Once you get it, be able to do couter kills in your sleep.
Dragonstorm
12-13-2007, 03:00 PM
Repetitive side missions - You did all realise that you only had to do 2 in each town, right? There was no benefit in doing more other than you wanting to. I did because I'm odd and liked them, and seems from the achv. points you all did too, but just wanted to make sure! :D
With the controls Trill, the only thing that annoyed me was that it auto-switched to sword when you try to enter interlock (lol!! mxo ftw!!) combat, which was annoying when I was in the mood to hidden-blade counter. Other than that though I can't say I had any problems, I think from the moment you get counter I didn't have an enemy land a single hit on me except for being countered myself! It's so easy to avoid and counter every hit... tooo easy. :S
Gotta say, the game was stupidly easy as far as combat goes, all the same, still loved it though.
Jekht
12-13-2007, 03:10 PM
You only had to do 2 unless you wanted to play the game for more than 4 hours..... :p
Extra content should not be monotonous. Look at GTA, you don't need to go do most of the stuff you do, but it's fun, and there's alot of variety there.
The content in AC feels like it was put there just to reach an acceptable minimum time to finish the game.
The free running often makes these tedius missions abit more interesting, but they're still too much of the same. Likewise by the end the only city variation I saw was the docks. All the other cities begin to share landmark buildings by the end :(
Also I did read everything at the end mate, including the hidden codes and saw no such proof of the next game being set in oriental themed setting. I wish it were, but I saw no suggestion of it. I saw some japanese and chinese text, but I also saw hebrew, arabic, english, and mayan. Any chance you can post what you saw if you can remember? :)
Oh and the hidden codes:
M O R Y M N O E S
E N C E O L C H T
H O N B T L O T C
T D E O S A T O A
P E D S N L S T F
L D D U O O E T E
E A I E I R I N T
H S H K T T K E R
T U A A A N S S A
Now read it from the bottom right corner and up and then start on the next
column the same way. You should read this:
ARTEFACTS SENT TO THE SKIES TO CONTROL ALL NATIONS TO MAKE US OBEY A
HIDDEN CRUSADE DO NOT HELP THEM
Same thing on the other jumble:
A
D R H
O O D T M
W H B I T D O
E U S Y S I N S E
A R O O M R E A Y N R
I S E Y T N I D L M I D E
T W I H W Y I E A U D A Y H T
THEY DRAINED MY SOUL AND MADE IT THERIS I DRAINED MY BODY TO SHOW
YOU WHERE I SAW IT
TrillianX
12-13-2007, 03:38 PM
Repetitive side missions - You did all realise that you only had to do 2 in each town, right?
The good thing is that, unless you are an achievement whore, you only need to do about 1/3rd of the side missions to beat the game.
:p
I only did the side missions for the points and for the full synch bar. Also, I had no problem in the fights, like you said it was too easy, the issue was I would have my hidden blade selected and it would try to auto switch to sword while I am being hit. Kinda annoying. Once you learn counter kills though it is beyond easy. Supposed to be an assassin game where you need to run and hide to live, but you can easily kill like 25 guards and not have to move to get "undiscovered". Oh and I hated the freakin docks. I know you are not supposed to, but I killed every drunk guy I saw. After being pushed into the water which instantly killed me like 4 times, It was over for them. Jekht is right though, side missions should be like GTA, not 60 of the same 2 missions over and over.
Also, as far as the end...
I am sure everyone picked it up, but the final note on the chicka's computer had a hidden message as well. You have to take all the capital words out and it spells stuff. Can't recall 100%, but it was from the assassins and said something like We are on our way...
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