RFO chipwar times are changing for Fire

[Amphetamine]

About time too!

Main chipwar will now be at 8pm, as of server down on wednesday :D

So it looks like I'd better get my act together and hit 25 by then :o

[savity]

Well I won't be able to compete for a couple of weeks cos o my uber slow leveling technique - but hopefully this means I may be able to go to sleep mining at the core rather than the portal.


Hmmm - the patch means downtime from 9am for 3 hours (GMT). Well that's scuppered my afkaw (Away From Keyboard At Work) mining for today :(

[Veube]

:::big sigh::: :cry:

8pm is no good for me.

Is there any reason to take part in RFO other than Chip Wars ?

If not.....game over. I guess I'm just not in CMs 'target' playerbase. :?

:::runs off to mmorpg.com for inspiration:::

[Dragonstorm]

Follows you to mmorpg.com...

[savity]

Give it a month and it'll be 9pm UK time V...

They have only moveed it forward a couple of hours. Before it was 6pm 2am, 10am. Now it is 8pm, 4am, 12pm. Which one were you partaking in before?

EDIT::

I also found this thread - which seems to suggest the whole thing is destined to expand to planet based wars....

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67714&highlight=economy

High level Wars:
Guild War (Lvl 40-50/Neutral area)
Alliance War (Lvl 50-70/Space and Time Conveyer area)
Space War (Lvl 75+/Space Map)
Star War (Lvl 100+/Planet or Star)

Four stages of War:


1st Stage:
[Among Races] [Mine Area]
It's fought over gold and resources.


2nd Stage:
[Among Races] [Town or City Area]
It's fought over the control of Towns or cities that have giant resources benefit and/or fortress.


3rd Stage:
[Among Alliances of Guilds] [Space and Time Conveyers]
It's fought over the control of space and time conveyers. Those are used for transporting war commodities periodically to the Alliance occupied area.


4th Stage:
[Between Alliances or Independent Countries] [Planets or Stars]
It's fought to expand territories.

[Veube]

Give it a month and it'll be 9pm UK time V...

They have only moved it forward a couple of hours. Before it was 6pm 2am, 10am. Now it is 8pm, 4am, 12pm. Which one were you partaking in before?

Erm, I was under the impression that the times before were 8am, 4pm and midnight. The times I was on, the war always seemed to start at midnight. Any time from 10pm till 1am would have been fine. 8pm....not.

And as for the other expanding stuff....sounds interesting but without details I'm not prepared to pay-to-wait.

[savity]

I'm probably confused and far too low level to worry about the chip war just yet - other than the benefits of mining.

[BakuraRyou]

Is there any reason to take part in RFO other than Chip Wars ?

If not.....game over. I guess I'm just not in CMs 'target' playerbase. :?
You knew from the start that RFO was heavily focused on PvP, so what on earth is the problem!? o0

I was looking at Valhyre the other day, looked interesting, then crap. What a dilemma.

[Veube]

Is there any reason to take part in RFO other than Chip Wars ?

If not.....game over. I guess I'm just not in CMs 'target' playerbase. :?
You knew from the start that RFO was heavily focused on PvP, so what on earth is the problem!? o0

I was looking at Valhyre the other day, looked interesting, then crap. What a dilemma.

The timing of the main PvP focus is the problem. I ain't gonna be able to be around when the Chip Wars are on because they've decided to change the times from what they were in beta. So, as there isn't any other purpose, it would seem, atm, then I'll be moving right along. What's Anarchy Online like ? :?

[Adunai]

Is there any reason to take part in RFO other than Chip Wars ?

If not.....game over. I guess I'm just not in CMs 'target' playerbase. :?
You knew from the start that RFO was heavily focused on PvP, so what on earth is the problem!? o0

The timing of the main PvP focus is the problem. I ain't gonna be able to be around when the Chip Wars are on because they've decided to change the times from what they were in beta. So, as there isn't any other purpose, it would seem, atm, then I'll be moving right along. What's Anarchy Online like ? :?

Actually, I think Bak raises a very astute point. The game's focus is PvP, not just CW PvP. Yes, the Chip Wars play an integral part in the game, but there is much more to be done than a single event which last for about an hour or so. They may not reap the same clear cut benefits, but it's not as if 'pointless' PvP is a foreign concept now is it? :wink:

PvP is omni-present in this game, not only during CWs. But, just like the CW, it's primarily aimed at lvl 30+ ppl. Actually, most content is unlocked once you reach 30. If u need a goal in PvP, i suggest you go guard Sette, Volcanic or Haram from invasion to protect the lowbies trying to lvl there. Sure, u won't get 8hours of uber-mining, but you'll be a positive help to your entire race nonetheless, and hopefully be entertained while doing it. And then those lowbies in turn can lvl up and go join the CW and help win it. On the other hand, you could get a war party going and raid sundry113 or something similar. Hinder the other race in lvling up, make them weaker in the process and more likely to be defeated in subsequent CWs. It's what the Belattos (fucking dwarfs, I hate them with a passion only rivalled by ZIons) do all the time, and a viable war tactic. Actually, everything you do will influence the on-going war, wether you actively participate in a CW or not.

The real crux of the matter is, you can only start making a difference at lvl30+, and even then only barely. And I admit it's a serious grind (and only gets worse as you lvl). The truth is, this game isn't for everyone, and quite frankly I'm not at all surprised to see ppl bailing out already. Personally, I'd at least give it a go upto lvl 30 and then see how i feel about it. You got a free month with the game, in that time you should easily hit 30 (hell, you should hit it in a week actually).

It's not as if the CW is the only place to PvP. Chasing ppl around Sette desert is equally pointless as chasing ppl away from a phonebooth (and we've been doing that for months :P ) Actually, the former has more result, as disrupting your opponents ability to lvl only results in a smaller and weaker turnout at the CW.

If anything quoting the massive grind not being your thing is a much better excuse then the CW timetable (which is very much still open to change anyway) imho. Just my opinion of course. To each his own. We're all playing to enjoy ourselves after all 8)

[Veube]

It's not as if the CW is the only place to PvP. Chasing ppl around Sette desert is equally pointless as chasing ppl away from a phonebooth (and we've been doing that for months.) Actually, the former has more result, as disrupting your opponents ability to lvl only results in a smaller and weaker turnout at the CW.

I learnt a lot from the MxO experience. The reason I found it difficult to let go was the fact I'd put so much time and effort into it. The PvP was the only activity lvl50s could take part in. However, ultimately, making up your own reasons to go on a rampage is an empty experience, as is making up your own events. What would you do if you went to the cinema, only to be presented with a black screen with the words 'You make it up'.

Chip Wars are the focal point around which the whole RFO experience revolves. Sure, again, you could make up reasons to find enemies and battle with them but IMO it's an short term 'fix', only mildly more exciting that a single player FPS. At the end of the day, it doesn't achieve anything.

The drive to get through the intense grind is that at the end of it you can take part in the Chip Wars. They, in turn, effect every other part of the game. Incidental PvP doesn't. You stopped someone from lvling on the Lunkers in Sette. So, they just go elsewhere to lvl.

I guess it's a personal thing. MxO taught me that I need to be fed a reason for my actions, doing it myself isn't enough. So, I'll be watching the RFO forums to see how CM react to the views of ppl who are arguing for and against the time changes. Hopefully what has been done isn't set.

[Amphetamine]

It's not just lvling at sette and places, it's also stopping the other races from getting the good loots that occour at those places. there's a reason that lots of players camp sette, and that's because you get a lot of jewlry drops there, which besides being elemental def enhancers sell for a ton of gold. So if you can stop their ecconomy getting richer than it already is from the CW's, then you're stopping them from getting good gear made by their smiths. Everything revolves around money in the game, if you can cripple at least one of their quick supplies and take it for yourself then you will help to turn the tide of battle.

Besides which, you will be getting pleanty of pvp in later just in your normal lvling procedures... there seems to be a lot more missions out into the pvp areas post lvl25.

There's also the non-pvp stuff to look forward to, like being hard enough to be in a pit boss party, or even being in a big enough party to kill the holy stone keeper and stop one race's otherwise sucesfull chipwar from benefiting them!

There will be events too, CM have stated that chipwar is not the point of the game, that schedualed events outside of chipwar will be more important to the players.

[Adunai]

Very good points as well Amph.

Like I said, everything has an effect, not just the CW. Besides, it's not about giving myself an empty RP-driven goal, V. And it's not about stopping some lowbie from lvling on lunkers either. If I (with a group, solo ain't very viable) can 'control' Sette, keep it under Cora control by engaging and killing every other race that roams into it, I accomplish several things : disrupt their lvling, keep them from getting good drops (Amph is correct, the drops there are pretty good), and on top of that, I take away their entry into Volcanic as well.

Btw, have you actually done a CW yet? in beta perhaps? Just a little warning : don't get ur hopes up on the CW. Quite frankly, pre-lvl 30 you won't make any difference at all tbh. And even post lvl 30 your 'input' will be minimal at best.
At least, judging from my own experiences in beta that is. (maybe I just sucked :s)
CW is fun and all, no doubt about it, I enjoyed it immensely. Just saying from a personal POV, theres not much difference between hectic fighting at a CW, just outside Haram or at the ruins in Sette. I enjoy all three of them equally, and all of them accomplish something imho (however small it may be, I feel I'm contributing to the war)

I agree the CW hours are shit right now. But it's hardly enough to make me quit already again after 4days of retail.I gave MxO a year of my life. The least I can do is use my free 30 days in RFO. :)

[Veube]

Thanks Amp & Ad. You've made some good points there. It may be just enough to convince me to see out the 30 day trial, but I'm still doubtful. It is yet to be seen if the live events are going to work. They proved a huge disappointment in MxO. PvP outside Chip Wars....we'll see.

Just to put yourself in my position, think about this scenario:

GM: Attention. New rule. Anyone with a 'V' in their character name is banned from taking part in Chip Wars.

Are you still going to play ?

[savity]

GM: Attention. New rule. Anyone with a 'V' in their character name is banned from taking part in Chip Wars.

Are you still going to play ?

Balls - that's Sav out of Chip Wars then :wink:

[Veube]

Another point that has been highlighted in the RFO forums is what happens after a Chip War. If our race wins then how long do we have protected access to the core for mining ? Is it until the next Chip War or just for a couple of hours ? Is prime AFK mining time going to be when we're wanting to play ? :?

[savity]

At work reading the forums - TBH they have really screwed up if I'm correct.

These are the times they have.

PST.......CST......EST......GMT......CET
11:00....13:00....14:00....19:00....20:00
19:00....21:00....22:00....03:00....04:00
03:00....05:00....06:00....11:00....12:00

These suck - I could have made an 8pm slot - or at least the back end - Latecomers FTW...

I can't do a 7pm CW so am in the same boat as V.

If Fire was a server released for the UK launch it should have UK (adult) friendly times.

They really should have a CW at 10pm GMT or 9pm GMT (10pm DST) to keep the UK adults happy.

Once I reset my password (can't do it at work due to the password reset site being banned) I'm gonna go off on one. And post my proposed schedule

PST.......CST......EST......GMT......CET
08:00....09:00....10:00....15:00....16:00
13:00....15:00....16:00....21:00....22:00
20:00....21:00....22:00....03:00....04:00

Would be much fairer I think - although not 8 hours apart it's the only way to make it fair.

[Veube]

PST.......CST......EST......GMT......CET
08:00....09:00....10:00....15:00....16:00
13:00....15:00....16:00....21:00....22:00
20:00....21:00....22:00....03:00....04:00

Go Sav. Those times are pucker.

Cept I think the PST column should be:

07:00
13:00
19:00

[Veube]

Checked in @ 9pm tonight. What's the /Map chat about ? How feckin good the Chip Wars were. :evil:

Seems Cora teamed up with Accretia to kill off the Bellato chip then we have some sort of agreement to take it in turns to disable each others chips on a daily basis.

Anyway, since Cora won, I'm mining in the core. :evil: No playing tonight. :evil:

Severly lacking in enthusiasm.

[Circa909]

Winning chip war after chip war doesn't mean much really. We've won the cw over and over and it drove the economy to shit. Our taxes were so high that mining the core was imperitive to lvling (h-pots, ammo, etc). Also, while other races maybe have lost the cw here we are lying dormant in the mine while they are lvling. So, actually the value of the cw is what you make of it, will you use it to make cash/process for items, or go lvl to help win the next Chip War. (On a side note the cost of repairing our mau's forces some of us to spend our time mining and not lvling which is lame .) :?

[Amphetamine]

(On a side note the cost of repairing our mau's forces some of us to spend our time mining and not lvling which is lame .) :?

Serves you right for choosing to play a midget in a tin can.

[Circa909]

Well I myself am not a mau driver but the guild I'm in asks for donations to help keep our mau's in good condition. Also, to my amusement, I luv the reaction from the hippies when they see 15 mau's come outta nowhere ...ahh the good times.

/back to rfo 8)

[savity]

Well I myself am not a mau driver but the guild I'm in asks for donations to help keep our mau's in good condition. Also, to my amusement, I luv the reaction from the hippies when they see 15 mau's come outta nowhere ...ahh the good times.

/back to rfo 8)

You keep getting those Mau's damaged up and in need of repair - it's fine by us cos it just means lotsa expensive trading to push your exchange rate through the roof.

I'll keep AFK mining near the portal and hoarding gold. I might even get on with leveling sometime. :lol:

[Circa909]

You keep getting those Mau's damaged up and in need of repair - it's fine by us cos it just means lotsa expensive trading to push your exchange rate through the roof.

...currently 15.3% :shock: